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	<title>Gigantomachia &#187; Gigantomachia/Titanomachia</title>
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		<title>Marduk: 1,2,3</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 16:31:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In the &#8216;Hymn of the Fifty Names of Marduk&#8217;, he is described as follows: MARDUK is One, he is Son of the Sun, he is the first, the sunburst. &#8230;.. Most shining one, Son of the Sun, the gods are walking always in the flame of his light. &#8230;. MARUKKA is Two hammering out the [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the &#8216;Hymn of the Fifty Names of Marduk&#8217;, he <span id="more-241"></span> is described as follows:</p>
<p>MARDUK is One,<br />
he is Son of the Sun,<br />
he is the first, the sunburst.<br />
&#8230;..</p>
<p>Most shining one,<br />
Son of the Sun,<br />
the gods are walking always in the flame of his light.<br />
&#8230;.</p>
<p>MARUKKA is Two<br />
hammering out the whole creation<br />
to ease the gods in tribulation.</p>
<p>MARUTUKKU is Three,<br />
his praises are heard on every hand,<br />
the armed child who shields the land.</p>
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<p>Notes:</p>
<p>a) The first 3 of the &#8217;50 names of Marduk&#8217; remind of <a title="Gigantomachia in Plato 1" href="/mce/?p=176">Plato&#8217;s description of the giantomachia</a>. The &#8216;third&#8217; is the child who brings peace (&#8216;shields the land&#8217;) after the second has involved the separation of heaven and earth (&#8216;hammering out the whole creation&#8217;) and observed &#8216;the gods in tribulation&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>Enuma Elish: Mother of all, why did you have to mother war?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2004 15:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Discord broke out among the gods although they were brothers, warring and jarring in the belly of Tiamat, heaven shook, it reeled with the surge of the dance. (Enuma Elish, Tablet 1) &#8230;.. But now the other gods had no rest any more, tormented by storms, they conspired in their secret hearts and brought to [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Discord broke out among the gods although they were brothers, <span id="more-233"></span> warring and jarring in the belly of Tiamat, heaven shook, it reeled with the surge of the dance. (<em>Enuma Elish</em>, Tablet 1)</p>
<p>&#8230;..</p>
<p>But now the other gods had no rest any more, tormented by storms, they conspired in their secret hearts and brought to Tiamat the matter of their plot. To their own mother they said,<br />
&#8216;When they killed Apsu you did not stir, you brought no help to him, your husband. Now Anu has called up from the four quarters this abomination of winds to rage in your guts, and we cannot rest for the pain;<br />
Remember Apsu in your heart, your husband, remember Mummu who was defeated; now you are all alone, and thrash around in desolation, and we have lost your love, our eyes ache and we long for sleep.<br />
&#8216;Rise up, our Mother! Pay them back and make them empty like the wind.&#8217;<br />
Tiamat approved it, she said,<br />
&#8216;I approve this advice: <em>we will make monsters, and monsters and gods against gods will march into battle</em>together.&#8217;<br />
Together they jostle the ranks to march with Tiamat, day and night furiously they plot, the growling roaring rout, ready for battle, while the old hag, the first mother, mothers a new brood.<br />
She loosed the irresistible missile, she spawned enormous serpents with cutting fangs, chock-full of venom instead of blood, snarling dragons wearing their glory like gods.<br />
(<em>Enuma Elish</em>, Tablet 1)</p>
<p>&#8230;..</p>
<p>He [Marduk] took his route towards the rising sound of Tiamat&#8217;s rage, and all the gods besides, the fathers of the gods pressed in around him, and the lord approached Tiamat.<br />
He surveyed her, scanning the deep, he sounded the plan of Kingu her consort; but so soon as Kingu sees him he falters, flusters, and the friendly gods who filled the ranks beside him &#8211; when they saw the brave hero, their eyes suddenly blurred.<br />
But Tiamat without turning her neck roared, spitting defiance from bitter lips,<br />
&#8216;Upstart, do you think yourself too great? Are they scurrying now from their holes to yours?&#8217;<br />
Then the lord raised the hurricane, the great weapon, and he flung his words at the termagant fury, &#8216;Why are you rising, your pride vaulting, your heart set on faction, so that sons reject fathers? <em>Mother of all, why did you have to mother war?</em> You made that bungler your husband, Kingu! You gave him the rank, not his by right, of Anu. You have abused the gods my ancestors, in bitter malevolence you threaten Anshar, the king of all the gods. You have marshaled forces for battle, prepared the war-tackle. Stand up alone and we will fight it you, you and I alone in battle.&#8217;<br />
When Tiamat heard him her wits scattered, she was possessed and shrieked aloud, her legs shook from the crotch down, she gabbled spells, muttered maledictions, while the gods of war sharpened their weapons.<br />
Then they met: Marduk, that cleverest of gods, and Tiamat grappled alone in single fight.<br />
(<em>Enuma Elish</em>, Tablet 4)</p>
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<p>Notes:</p>
<p>a) The Enuma Elish is the Babylonian mythical cycle which has parallels with the earlier Sumerian and later Hebrew and Greek traditions. The gigantomachia plays has an important role in all (though this is naturally muted in the monotheistic Bible).</p>
<p>b) Tiamat is the original mother, chaos, fresh water, the underground. Apsu is the original father, husband of Tiamat; he is the salt water and the depths of the sea. Mumma is the craftsman god and advisor to Apsu, perhaps his &#8216;thought&#8217;. Anu, lord of the sky, is Apsu&#8217;s grandson and the son of Anshar, the heavens.</p>
<p>c) Just as in Greek myth, there is discord between the generations of the gods and it is the third generation which comes to power through a war in which the powers of the sky overthrow those of the earth.</p>
<p>d) Kingu is the new husband of Tiamat, and the commander of her forces, after the murder of Apsu.</p>
<p>e) <a title="Marduk: 1,2,3" href="/mce/?p=241">Marduk</a> is the grandson of Anu who fights and destroys Tiamat when the other gods of the sky fear to do so.</p>
<p>f) &#8220;Mother of all, why did you have to mother war?&#8221; Compare Achilles (<em>Iliad</em>, Bk 18): &#8220;I wish that strife (eris) would vanish away from among the gods and mortals.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>An Overview: The Logic of/at Origin</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jul 2004 16:12:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The gigantomachia is an expression of a certain logic of/at origin. However, it is exactly the central point of the gigantomachia that this logic is already logics at origin. Other logics are equally possible and equally present there in such a way that origin is a contest of logics, therefore of onto-logies. The contest of [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The gigantomachia is an expression of a certain logic of/at <span id="more-229"></span> origin. However, it is exactly the central point of the gigantomachia that this logic is already logic<em>s </em>at origin. Other logics are equally possible and equally present there in such a way that origin is a contest of logics, therefore of onto-logies.</p>
<p>The contest of logics of/at origin has the following aspects:</p>
<p>a) there are multiple fundamental powers or shapes or possibilities at origin. See <a href="/mce/?cat=44">original complexity</a>.</p>
<p>b) defining this multiplicity are abysmal borders which are not themselves possibilities at origin, but are somehow &#8216;present&#8217; there. See <a href="/mce/?cat=14">original difference</a>.</p>
<p>c) since these multiple powers are equally fundamental and equally powerful, they contest with one another. This contest is dynamic. It therefore has a time of its own which is essentially different from historical time. See <a href="/mce/?cat=17">times</a>.</p>
<p>d) origin has a <em>second dark</em> (which is what Beckett&#8217;s <a title="The space of the door 3" href="/mce/?p=17">Krapp</a> describes in his &#8216;last tape&#8217;) and a <em>second light</em> (Beckett&#8217;s &#8220;<a title="The space of the door 2" href="/mce/?p=21">then gently light unfading on that unheeded neither</a>&#8220;). Similarly, one of the central intentions of Plato&#8217;s allegory of the cave is to distinguish different between varieties of light and of dark; these are essentially different in the cave as opposed to the day and night of the earth above. In SZ Heidegger calls attention to the peculiar light (lights) of origin with the coinage &#8216;Gelichtetheit&#8217; and specifically relates it to the different time there: &#8220;die Zeitlichkeit die Gelichtetheit des Da ekstatisch-horizontal konstituiert&#8230;&#8221; (SZ, S 408)</p>
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		<title>Pelion and Ossa in Hamlet</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 01:00:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Hamlet, Prince of Denmark (Act 5, Scene 1) LAERTES: O, treble woe Fall ten times treble on that cursed head, Whose wicked deed thy most ingenious sense Deprived thee of! Hold off the earth awhile, Till I have caught her once more in mine arms: [Leaps into Ophelia's grave] Now pile your dust upon the [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Hamlet, Prince of Denmark</em> (Act 5, Scene 1)</p>
<p>LAERTES: O, <span id="more-106"></span> treble woe<br />
Fall ten times treble on that cursed head,<br />
Whose wicked deed thy most ingenious sense<br />
Deprived thee of! Hold off the earth awhile,<br />
Till I have caught her once more in mine arms:<br />
[Leaps into Ophelia's grave]<br />
Now pile your dust upon the quick and dead,<br />
Till of this flat a mountain you have made,<br />
To o&#8217;ertop old Pelion, or the skyish head<br />
Of blue Olympus.</p>
<p>(&#8230;.)</p>
<p>HAMLET: &#8216;Swounds, show me what thou&#8217;lt do:<br />
Woo&#8217;t weep? woo&#8217;t fight? woo&#8217;t fast? woo&#8217;t tear thyself?<br />
Woo&#8217;t drink up eisel? eat a crocodile?<br />
I&#8217;ll do&#8217;t. Dost thou come here to whine?<br />
To outface me with leaping in her grave?<br />
Be buried quick with her, and so will I:<br />
And, if thou prate of mountains, let them throw<br />
Millions of acres on us, till our ground,<br />
Singeing his pate against the burning zone,<br />
Make Ossa like a wart!</p>
<p>These references to the gigantomachia in the last act of Hamlet are reinforced by the earlier exchange of Laertes with Claudius:<br />
CLAUDIUS What is the cause, Laertes,<br />
That thy rebellion looks so giant-like?<br />
(Act 4, Scene 5)</p>
<p>Shakespeare&#8217;s <em>Hamlet</em>, like the gigantomachia, concerns the rights of rulership, of fatherhood and of inheritance as these are fought over between generations. In the end, Hamlet and Laertes kill each other with foils in a denoument recalling the end of the rebellion of the twin Aloadai giants against the gods (when they piled <a title="The war of the Aloadai and the gods in Apollodorus" href="/mce/?p=301">Pelion on Ossa</a>): &#8220;Artemis finished off the Aloadai in Naxos by means of a trick: in the likeness of a deer she darted between them, and in their desire to hit the animal they speared each other.&#8221; (Apollodorus, <em>Library</em> 1.53)</p>
<p>Just before their final duel Hamlet says to Laertes:<br />
Let my disclaiming from a purposed evil<br />
Free me so far in your most generous thoughts,<br />
That I have shot mine arrow o&#8217;er the house,<br />
And hurt my brother.<br />
(Act 5, Scene 1)</p>
<p>Later still: &#8220;I&#8217;ll be your foil, Laertes: in mine ignorance&#8230;.&#8221; (Act 5, Scene 1)</p>
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		<title>Pelion and Ossa in Rabelais</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2004 00:14:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[This response, quoth Pantagruel, maketh not very much for your benefit or advantage; for it plainly signifies and denoteth that your wife shall be a strumpet, and yourself by consequence a cuckold. The goddess, whom you shall not find propitious nor favourable unto you, is Minerva, a most redoubtable and dreadful virgin, a powerful and [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This response, quoth Pantagruel, maketh not very much for your benefit or <span id="more-309"></span>advantage; for it plainly signifies and denoteth that your wife shall be a strumpet, and yourself by consequence a cuckold. The goddess, whom you shall not find propitious nor favourable unto you, is Minerva, a most redoubtable and dreadful virgin, a powerful and fulminating goddess, an enemy to cuckolds and effeminate youngsters, to cuckold-makers and adulterers. The god is Jupiter, a terrible and thunder-striking god from heaven. And withal it is to be remarked, that, conform to the doctrine of the ancient Etrurians, the manubes, for so did they call the darting hurls or slinging casts of the Vulcanian thunderbolts, did only appertain to her and to Jupiter her father capital. This was verified in the conflagration of the ships of Ajax Oileus, nor doth this fulminating power belong to any other of the Olympic gods. Men, therefore, stand not in such fear of them. Moreover, I will tell you, and you may take it as extracted out of the profoundest mysteries of mythology, that, when the giants had enterprised the waging of a war against the power of the celestial orbs, the gods at first did laugh at those attempts, and scorned such despicable enemies, who were, in their conceit, not strong enough to cope in feats of warfare with their pages; but when they saw by the gigantine labour the high hill Pelion set on lofty Ossa, and that the mount Olympus was made shake to be erected on the top of both, then was it that Jupiter held a parliament, or general convention, wherein it was unanimously resolved upon and condescended to by all the gods, that they should worthily and valiantly stand to their defence. And because they had often seen battles lost by the cumbersome lets and disturbing encumbrances of women confusedly huddled in amongst armies, it was at that time decreed and enacted that they should expel and drive out of heaven into Egypt and the confines of Nile that whole crew of goddesses.<br />
(Rabelais, Gargantua and Pantagruel, Chapter 3.XII: How Pantagruel doth explore by the Virgilian lottery what fortune Panurge shall have in his marriage)</p>
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		<title>The war of the Aloadai and the gods in Virgil</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here [Tartaros] have I [the Cumaean Sibyl] seen the twin sons of Aloeus, the gigantic creatures who sought to pull down heaven itself with their own bare hands, and to unseat Jove [Zeus] from his throne. (Virgil, Aeneid 6.582)]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here [Tartaros] have I [the Cumaean Sibyl] seen the twin sons of <span id="more-304"></span>Aloeus, the gigantic creatures who sought to pull down heaven itself with their own bare hands, and to unseat Jove [Zeus] from his throne. (Virgil, <em>Aeneid</em> 6.582)</p>
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		<title>The war of the Aloadai and the gods in Ovid</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:24:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Nor were the heights of heaven more secure: Gigantes, it’s said, to win the gods’ domain, mountain on mountain reared and reached the stars. Then the Pater Omnipotens [Zeus] hurled his bolt and shattered great Olympus and struck down high Pelion piled on Ossa. There they lay, grim broken bodies crushed in huge collapse. (Ovid, [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nor were the heights of heaven more secure: Gigantes, it’s said, to win the <span id="more-306"></span> gods’ domain, mountain on mountain reared and reached the stars. Then the Pater Omnipotens [Zeus] hurled his bolt and shattered great Olympus and struck down high Pelion piled on Ossa. There they lay, grim broken bodies crushed in huge collapse. (Ovid, <em>Metamorphoses</em> 1.151)</p>
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		<title>The war of the Aloadai and the gods in Hyginus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:20:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Otos and Ephialtes, sons of Aloeus and Iphimede, are said to have been of extraordinary size. They each grew nine inches every month, and so when they were nine years old, they tried to climb into heaven. They began this way: they placed Mount Ossa on Pelion (from this Mount Ossa is also called Pelion), [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Otos and Ephialtes, sons of Aloeus and Iphimede, are said to have been of <span id="more-302"></span>extraordinary size. They each grew nine inches every month, and so when they were nine years old, they tried to climb into heaven. They began this way: they placed Mount Ossa on Pelion (from this Mount Ossa is also called Pelion), and were piling up other mountains. But they were discovered by Apollo and killed. Other writers, however, say that they were invulnerable sons of Neptunus [Poseidon] and Iphimede. When they wished to assault Diana [Artemis], she could not resist their strength, and Apollo sent a deer between them. Driven mad by anger in trying to kill it with javelins, they killed each other. In the Land of the Dead they are said to suffer this punishment: they are bound by serpents to a column, back to back. Between them is a screech-owl [a bird which was believed to drink blood], sitting on the column to which they are bound. (Hyginus, <em>Fabulae</em>)</p>
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		<title>The war of the Aloadai and the gods in Apollodorus</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Aloeus married Triops’ daughter Iphimedeia, who, however, was in love with Poseidon. She would go down to the sea, gather the waves in her hands, and pour the water on her vagina. Poseidon mated with her and fathered two sons, Otos and Ephialtes, who were known as Aloadai. Each year these lads grew two feet [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aloeus married Triops’ daughter Iphimedeia, who, however, was in love with <span id="more-301"></span>Poseidon. She would go down to the sea, gather the waves in her hands, and pour the water on her vagina. Poseidon mated with her and fathered two sons, Otos and Ephialtes, who were known as Aloadai. Each year these lads grew two feet in width and six feet in length. When they were nine years old and measured eighteen feet across by fifty four feet tall, they decided to fight the gods. So they set Mount Ossa on top of Mount Olympos, and then placed Mount Pelion on top of Ossa, threatening by means of these mountains to climb up to the sky; and they also said that they would dam up the sea with mountains and make it dry, and make the dry land a sea. Ephialtes paid amorous attention to Hera, as did Otos to Artemis. And they also bound up Ares. But Hermes secretly snatched Ares away, and Artemis finished off the Aloadai in Naxos by means of a trick: in the likeness of a deer she darted between them, and in their desire to hit the animal they speared each other. (Apollodorus, <em>Library</em> 1.53)</p>
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		<title>The war of the Aloadai and the gods in Homer</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2004 21:10:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Many of us who have our homes on Olympos endure things from men, when ourselves we inflict hard pain on each other. Ares had to endure it when strong Ephialtes and Otos, sons of Aloeus, chained him in bonds that were too strong for him, and three months and ten he lay chained in the [...]]]></description>
				<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many of us who have our homes on Olympos endure things from men, when ourselves <span id="more-299"></span>we inflict hard pain on each other. Ares had to endure it when strong Ephialtes and Otos, sons of Aloeus, chained him in bonds that were too strong for him, and three months and ten he lay chained in the brazen cauldron; had not Eeriboia, their stepmother, the surpassingly lovely, brought word to Hermes, who stole Ares away out of it, as he was growing faint and the hard bondage was breaking him. (Homer, <em>Iliad</em> 5.385ff)</p>
<p>[Odysseus in the underworld:] I saw Aloeus’ wife; she was Iphimedeia, whose boast it was to have lain beside Poseidon. She bore him two sons, though their life was short – Otos the peer of the gods and far-famed Ephialtes; these were the tallest men, and the handsomest, that ever the fertile earth has fostered, save only incomparable Orion; at nine years of age their breadth was nine cubits, their height nine fathoms. They threatened the Deathless Ones themselves – to embroil Olympos in all the fury and din of war. And so indeed they might have done had they reached the full measure of their years, but the god that Zeus begot and lovely-haired Leto bore [= Apollon] destroyed them both before the first down could show underneath their brows and overspread and adorn their cheeks. (Homer, <em>Odyssey</em> 11.305)</p>
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